Redskins @ Bengals – Third Quarter Thoughts

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  • Cincinnati’s civic pride was firmly on display at halftime, as the inevitable press box snack of chili dogs is also accompanied by spaghetti, cheese, and onions, offering the opportunity to create the classic Cincinnati three-way. It was a welcome addition, too, because the hot dogs looked particularly strange today.
  • Here’s what I want to know about the Redskins’ first defensive possession of the half: where’s Rocky McIntosh? He’s reportedly not injured, but he doesn’t seem to be out there on the field. Alfred Fincher looked good in the preseason, sure, but I’m not sure that’s a reason to try him out here. Still, the Rocky-less defense looks good, and holds the Bengals to a punt.
  • The spark of Santana Moss punt returns is seriously dampened when they’re all accompanied by penalties, this one a holding call on Khary Campbell.
  • Despite the penalty, the Redskins offense comes out still looking sharp, moving the ball well — including a nifty 17 yard scramble by Jason Campbell — until they get inside the 10 yard line. Five chances inside the 10 (thanks to a defensive holding call), yields just four gained yards, one instant replay challenge for each team, a Mike Sellers touchdown overturned, and a Mike Sellers fumble at the goalline that gives Cincinnati the ball back. Very, very disappointing end to a promising drive.
  • I have three questions about the goal line plays: 1) Why not run your 6-5, 230 pound quarterback on a sneak? And 2) Why not run Clinton Portis, who had been having some success on the drive? The only good thing about the end of the drive was seeing Zorn throw the challenge flag 20 yards in the air.
  • After the defense holds (again), the Redskins offense bogs down and Campbell goes down with an elbow injury — return probable, I’m told. And then they start sabotaging themselves again, negating an excellent Plackemeier punt with a holding penalty. This is becoming very, very worrisome.
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100 Responses

  1. Matt,
    Why not run Portis or Campbell? Answer: because it makes too much sense.

  2. There’s been flashes of the team that got those 4 early wins, but all of it has been hammered back by how they’ve been playing the last few weeks.

  3. if Redskins lose today, you better not pout & you
    better not cry, there will a coaching change in
    the horizon.

  4. Why does this team refuse to open the offense up and throw the damn ball. Use the pass to open up the run

  5. Head Coach of the 2009 Washington Redskins, Bill Cowher.

  6. Letsgopitt, on December 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm Said:
    all campbell haters, hope you were watching

    Yup, I’m watching, and I’m seeing him overthrowing everybody

  7. I second that Exiled in KC

  8. Veryy worrisome. If we lose then that’s it we deserve it . We’ve had plenty of opportunities to do sumthin and we didn’t accomplish anything. Skiins this wasn’t supposed to be a “hard” game. Very upsetting.

  9. for continuity’s sake…id have no problem with cowher coaching (he’s a defensive guy) so long as zorn stayed on where he should be: offensive coordinator.

  10. Jc is a horrible QB and will always be horrible. He falls in the same skill set as harrington batch, carr, ramsey!!

  11. coolroy34, Said:

    if Redskins lose today, you better not pout & you
    better not cry, there will a coaching change in
    the horizon.

    RE:

    NO, we need to get rid of Campbell first, if Cower is available than maybe.

  12. Fire Zorn! TOOOO CONSERVATIVE WAY IN OVER HIS HEAD! JUST BECAUSE SELLARS CRIES DON’T GIVE HIM TOUCHES HE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT BLOCKING! GIVE IT TO CP, OR SNEAK WITH THE 6’5 QB! OH WAIT THAT MIGHT BE TOO EASY!

  13. Campbell should be benched and Zorn should be fired after this game…Enough said.

  14. i can’t believe we’re going to lose to the bengals. this is absolutely unacceptable.

  15. the requests to rid the skins of zorn or campbell are ridiculous. it’s their 1st year together… it takes time! please don’t tell me you consider yourselves fans and you’re calling for the firing / release of the two most crucial pieces of the puzzle!

  16. just embarassing absolutely embarassing

  17. The Redskins suck Zorn Is the biggest idiot i have ever saw in my life and campblow is the worst qb in the league

  18. we are, legitimately, the worst team in the nfl right now. i don’t think we could have beaten the lions if we played them this week.

  19. 4th qtr, down 10, Jason Campbell at QB= Loss

  20. Campbell played well….as we can see campbell’s weekness is our Left Tackle (Chris Samuels) You take him out and he has so much more time. Zorn got to go…too damn predictable. Play action from the 5….we do that every freaking game. We did it last week and it didn’t work….It’s worked once this whole year. It didin’t even work last year against the Giants in week 2. Why the hell do we still do that?

  21. Nice return for Cartwright….but I like how it followed with a Toss to Portis. Good call Zorn.

  22. Anybody who thinks campblow had a good game is a moron look at the game again and the missed open receievers

  23. down by 10 with 2 min left and we are still running the ball? Oh Zorn got to go

  24. you guys are not on nfl coaching rosters or advisors for a reason – support our damn redskins and shut up!

    i bet the 1st 8 weeks you were all over campbells / zorns ass. (campbell was the most efficient and 3rd rated qb in the league during that stretch)

    yes im annoyed that we’ll probably miss the playoffs this year – but god damn i’ll still be supporting my qb and coach!!!

  25. ultimately, it comes down to this: play calling is too conservative. JC can’t win a game for us by himself, and unfortunately, with that knowledge, teams just shut down CP and take the chance on JC’s 5 yd dumps. 25 attempts for 175 yards comes out to 7 yds/attempt which is much better than he has been averaging, but he’s not seeing it downfield. he has to develop, and he has to do it soon…

  26. I’m looking at Campbell’s stats, how did he play well?

  27. All records aside I think the Redskins are officially the worst team in the league this year. I think my 93 year old grandma could score my points than the entire Redskins offense. The BIGGEST collapse in team history! I’m on the verge of boycotting my lifelong team.

  28. No we are fans but to lose to the Bengals is pathetic whether it is your 20th year or 1st hen they are 1-11-1 and it isn’t like the Bengals have even been competitive lately, they gave up like 70 pts the last two weeks. It is pathetic the guy is in over his head. If you can’t get a group of overpaid losers up to beat the Bengals then you shouldn’t be a head coach. These players have no heart or pride and do not care about any of us so called fans! THEY SUCK GO STEELERS!

  29. Yeah “skins will lose this game now! wooohoooo. Go Bengals> I hate Jason Campbell with a passion. That clown has got to go. Nothing else needs to be discussed!!! I will not watch anymore games until another QB is playing. He has no potential. He is a deadskin kook clown Campbell has no skills. Get that deadweight out of there!! Zorn you MF’er what is wrong with you!!! You glazed over qb coach. You dog with a tennis ball, so fixated!! Stop the insanity, you can’t develop JC!!! We have two excellent backups!! Are you mad!!

  30. do u want to fire portis because he missed a catch?

  31. K State’s Rock Cartwright – our only “offensive” weapon. Keep him, Coach Cowher.

  32. Yea ROFL down by ten and closing in the 2 min warning a Zorn decides to give it to Portis?Sorry but this guy does not know how to coach.

  33. I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME THIS TEAM IS SO STUPID SO DUMB AND IGNORANT I GIVE UP ON THIS SEASON! SCREW THIS SEASON! STUPID JACKASS QB AND COACH

  34. great field position and we only get 3 points. Jason Campbell on that drive had 2 incompletions.

  35. hey rodney ur an idiot

  36. we need an offensive line and campbell will destroy defenses!

  37. hey big-z – if you live in kentucky you can say that to my face

  38. this is pitiful are genius head coach does not no his personnel and we cant catch nothing,can’t block can’t stop the run and can’t hold on to the ball. everybody blames campbell but he did not fumble the first play or let the other team score off the fumble. please this is the whole team.
    and it starts with the coach on down

  39. Good Job Zorn…

    Offensive genius puts up 13 against the Bengals.

    One word comes to mind when I look at the second half of the Redskins season, from the top of the FO down to the worst players on the team………Pathetic.

  40. rodney: FIRST OFF YOU AN IDIOT IF YOU PULLING FOR THIS IGNORANT QB AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING I WAS NEVER HAPPY WITH OUR LITTLE WINS I PREFERED TO BE IN A LOSSING STATE KNOWING THAT WE WONT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THEN HAVE LOST THE LAST 5 OF 6! YOU ARE SO DUMB AND YOU A FAKE A$$ FAN

  41. Good job deactivating Malcolm too. The one guy who might have some red zone potential is a healthy scratch…

    But I guess Zorn knows what he’s doing, I don’t.

  42. Give them the week off – practice isn’t helping.

  43. Offensive line or not stop sticking up for Zorn Rodney. The guy is awful… I can live with Campbell for now but Id really like to see Campbell and Brennan battle next year, not saying Colt is ready but I’d rather see him than Collins. Campbell needs to know he is being challenged and just doesn’t get the job with a coach who has no clue… and for the record HASSELBACK SUCKS! It’s just the Seahawks were good when he went to the probowl and that is why.

  44. Campbell is flat out garbage…Yes our o-line stinks,but they gave him some time today and he had imcompletions to open receivers and passes batted down even though he’s 6’5…I don’t know if i can watch another game as long as he’s the QB.

  45. kobie36:ANOTHER IDIOT IN THIS BLOG THINKS HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS SAYING! YOU DUMB IDIOT WHEN YOUR TEAM IS DOWN YOU LOOK FOR YOUR QB TO BE YOUR SOLUTION CAMPBELL IS THE WORST QB IN THE NFL! WORST!

  46. A team this pitiful has no reason to be in the playoffs. It will lose the first playoff game anyway. What a bunch of losers.

  47. The redskins are a complete freakin failure…i was always a fair weather fan for them cause they were always a let down..this year i decided to go maroon and gold all the way…but go figure..my fair weather attitude towards them prevailed and they freakin lost to the worst team in the entire NFL…SERIOUSLY they should eliminate the entire team and only have the ravens for this metro dc area…they are a disgrace and they truly suck their own johnsons…..LOSERS!!!!!!!!!

  48. Im embarrassed, litterally. This is the most pathetic redskin team ive watched in 18 years, and a goodone is definately many years away. Get rid of zorn before he ruins another year for us. This seasons over im not watching anymore games

  49. ZORN= GENIOUS!!!! WHICH MAY BE FRENCH FOR TOOL!!!!!

  50. I AM NOT GOING TO WATCH ANOTHER ONE OF THIS TEAMS GAME THIS YEAR SCREW THAT! THEY ARE SAD AND PATHETIC

  51. Redskins are the worst team in the league assessment wise.

  52. LOSE A FIRST ROUND PLAYOFF GAME I AGREE IT WOULD BE UGLY BUT THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE OF MAKING THE PLAYOFFS THIS IS MAYBE THE BIGGEST CHOKE JOB EVER! SPINLESS WONDERS ALL OF THEM… STARTS FROM SNYDER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE HEAD COACH AND THE HEARTLESS PLAYERS

  53. it s over IF the Zorn cant beat the bengals he should be fired immediately

    He is over his head

    I guess redskins will be in transition next year as well

    Greeat vince and Snyder you make a good choice u jackasses

  54. THE THING THAT ANNOYS ME THE MOST IS THE FACT THAT MOST OF THESE FANS ARE TRYING TO SAY THE AB AND COACH ARE GOOD HAHAHAHAHAHHA IDIOTS

  55. SAD!!!!!!!! this team sucks!!!!!

  56. FORGET THE FREAKIN O-LINE DISCUSSION. WHAT QB ISNT GOOD WITH A GOOD O-LINE.

  57. HAIL TO THE DEADSKINS HAIL MEDIOCRITY
    OVERPAID LOSERS ON THE WARPATH
    WHO DONT CARE ABOUT DC

  58. I was giving the benefit of the doubt to Zorn and Campbell, but after today, I don’t think I can anymore. Fire Zorn or make him an offensive coordinator, but they need to bring in someone to get things right. Brennen and Campbell should be in competition next year.

  59. Start tooling for 2009, se ya next bloggers. I’m done with this season.

  60. I feel like a philly fan, minus the wins

  61. all you people calling for brennan – you must’ve missed the sugar bowl against georgia where Brennan went 22/38 for 169 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT. they lost the game 41-10.

    and this is who you want to lead an nfl team???

  62. Falcons won today with a rookie coach and QB we have no excuse get Zorn and Campbell the hell out

  63. WOW THIS IS PATHETIC

  64. you all are some fools on this blog tight end fumbles on first drive and that set the tempo for the rest of the game from that point on the game was over. same thing by sellers in the 3rd Qt. that has nothing to do with campbell or zorn if you want to say somthing its the whole damn team
    fools

  65. DONT MAKE ZORN OFFESIVE COORD. WE WILL STILL RUN THIS HORRIBLE OFFENSE THAT A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAM MOVES THE MORE THAN. GET ZORN OUT AND BUILD IT ALL OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE THE WEST COAST OFFENSE SUCKS 4TH 8 LETS RUN FOUR THREE YARD ROUTES AND PRAY SOMEONE ON THE DEFENSE TEARS AND ACL AND WE GET THE FIRST DOWN. ZORN SUCKS!

  66. Were screwed, bottom line. Dallas will get a huge offseason pick up, we will get another old guy thats past his prime (jason Taylor) pretend the offensive line isnt the problem, and end up 8-8 at best. Pathetic

  67. kobie – you hit the nail on the head!

  68. What a shame! I thought at least the Skins could salvage a winning season but that’s unlikely now. I think I gave up any real playoff hopes after the loss to the Rams.

  69. kobie36:THE ONLY FOOL HERE IS YOU MORON OBVIOUSLY YOU DONT PAY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING YOUR JUST A WANA BE FAN BECAUSE A REAL FAN A TRUE FAN WOULD CALL OUT THE PROBLEMS IN A HEART BEAT OBVIOUSLY YOUR TO DUMB TO SEE THAT!

  70. Redskins are absolutely horrible. How do you lose to the Bengals? But that’s OK…it’s the first season under a new coach and a new system. If that idiot Snyder decides to give Zorn another chance, Campbell should have the offense down next season.

  71. I hope we lose out now honestly. Keep the coach for some kind of continuity, and draft a sick O lineman.

  72. watching this game would really make a grown man cry

  73. OH I AM WRITING IN CAPS ON THIS ONE!!!! ZORN HAS GOT TO BE THE WORST PLAYCALLER IN THE REDSKINS HISTORY. HIS PLAYS WORKED IN THE BEGINNING WHEN NOBODY KNEW HIM NOW EVERYONE IN THE NFL KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING? AND AS FOR JC SOMEBODY SAID DID YOU SEE HIM MISSING PEOPLE WHOOOO!!!!!! THERE IS NOBODY OPEN BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL 5 YARDS DOWN THE FIELD AND WE NEED 7. HOW ABOUT WE ARE ON THE 1 AND 3 TIMES DONT GIVE IT TO CP. THAT’S JC HUH!!!!!! I’M SORRY BUT JC ISN’T A HALL OF FAMER BUT DAMN CAN WE AT LEAST REALIZE WE DONT GIVE HIM A CHANCE EITHER. EVERY TEAM USES SHOTGUN AND IT SEEMS LIKE ZORN DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS… NEED A TD AND HE RUNS THE BALL WITH 2 MIN LEFT OH WHAT A GREAT COACH, AND I BET AFTER THE INTERVIEW HE IS GOING TO BLAME IT ON EXECUTION. WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE CALL HIM OUT ON HIS EXECUTING CALLING A GOOD GAME

  74. in more realistic news – an iraqi threw his shoes at president bush today.

    i think we should fire that iraqi – from 10 yards he missed his target…. he must think he’s jason campbell or something!

  75. Fire the Zorn he sucks >;-> Tell JC to get ready to learn a new offense

  76. We suck i dont get we beat good teams in the begining but now we cant beat nobody shit we dont even now how to line up anymore with all those illegal formations or shifts. Jim zorn is retarted for giving mike sellers the ball twice, worst play calling i have seen i think we should of kept al suanders and greg williams. With them we blew out sucky teams. This a f***ing dissapointment.

  77. Don’t the coaches ever do their homework when they are in tough times, like doing some research on how to get themselves out of the mess they are in. For example, the commentators are making more sense on what the skins should be doing during the game than the plays the coaches are calling. Somebody on the coaching staff should be recording a live broadcast on one of these horrible redskins games and just listen to what they are saying, maybe that will help wake them up a little. This is just ridiculous.

  78. redsins suck, they have absoulty nothing.just plain down right suck.

  79. Chris you were right Zorn is an idiot but its bad form to hope for the skins to lose just tospite him >;->

  80. Portis was right too by sarcastically calling Zorn a genius LMAO

  81. look here danny you must be like the owner same name same stupid eyes I know you never played football but first it starts in the trenches
    with the line then your QB and your RB,TE,WR’s
    they all work together I know you love your Tight end but if he kills the drive from the outset and they score off his mistake then you are in a hole
    2nd I see the game way better then yo fake fan ass and if you want to talk
    about this in person we can meet any place in DC you like fake bitch!

  82. wow to many people here are idiots, just chill

  83. his play calls were ridiculous

  84. kobie – he won’t meet you. too many people are way too comfortable being internet mobsters.

  85. LOL I feel you Rodney

  86. Firing your coach wont win championships. If this team pulls this **** next year I’ll be the first one on here saying to cut him loose, but until then you just can’t. It would be really really stupid.

  87. I have been a fan of the skins since i was 13 now iam 48 > this is just the worst team in YEARS they have no will to win, throw, play hard , nothing and that so called QB well never did like him to timid for a QB lets just say this team has no, none ,heart…..

  88. I apologize to the real fans but I can’t stand those fake blog chumps
    that just say anything and don’t know nothing about football
    I’m a diehard skins fan been that way for 30years and will be for 30 more

  89. like i was just emailing my friend who is a titan fan this is a very sad day in redskin history

  90. i know zorn is garbage but i say keep him so we could some continuity.and we never had that.

  91. as long as he doesnt call any plays >;->

  92. campbell had sum time to throw and he dissapointed.time for colt

  93. This this this is is is the the the way way way the the the redskins redskins redskins offense offense offense has has has been been been playing playing playing. It It It takes takes takes them them them longer longer longer to to to execute execute execute a a a play play play and and and the the the other other other team team team is is is two two two steps steps steps ahead ahead ahead of of of these these these sorry sorry sorry skins skins skins

  94. Why not take Campbell out and put in the backup Collins. That’s how we got to the playoffs last year. If Campbell had stayed in, we wouldn’t have gone far last year either. He reacts too slowly.

  95. I wonder if the skins can go anywhere with Dan Snyder as owner. There is no charm or charisma or interaction with the players–remember Jack Kent Cooke and his relationship with the team? The team responded to his Charm. He loved the players. Look at Jerry Jones. He loves his team and they respond to it. Where is Danny? The team hasn’t played well or consistant since Jack Kent Cooke owned them.

  96. Jerry Jones is a tool bag. If that guy owned the team I wouldn’t be a fan anymore. Personally I don’t want to see the owner all over the side lines, telling players they don’t have heart. Look at the mess in Oakland. Owners should just sign the checks.

  97. The Redskins have absolutely no HEART other than Clinton Portis & Fletcher & Moss… NONE. They can’t win, don’t wanna win, can’t get up for as game, don’t know how to win. They are pussies, that should be fired up and they show no emotion whatsoever, the last person that showed emotion was Brian Mitchell, hell make him coach or something because this is getting disgusting An expert said when Zorn was announced as head coach WITH NO EXPERIENCE whatsoever, this is going to bite them in the ASS and you know what IT DID !

  98. we shoulda put cooley at fullback when we ran it with sellers and put sellers farther back for him to pick up speed and momentum then we whoulda gotten in easy.

  99. all u idiots nedd to chill cuz its zorns first season. no one is that good their first season. it takes time idiots. as for campbell. u saw wut he can do in the first half of the season. give him a break he is still learning a new offence. i cant believe u guys call urselves fans.

  100. I’m the Head Coach. It’s my way or the highway!!

    I bench yo ass!

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