Tuesday, October 14: Potentially Good News For Artistically Gifted Redskins Fans

There are reports all over the place that Shaun Alexander will be working out for the Redskins today, that he will likely be signed, and that his life scripture is Psalms 37:4. (That last one may not be “all over the place,” actually.)

People I’ve talked to here have said that he’s working out, but I haven’t been able to confirm any of the other details. It certainly makes sense, from a certain perspective — Stump Mitchell was the guy who coached Alexander to league MVP status, so he should certainly be able to judge if he’s got any legs left, and to get the most out of whatever he’s got in spot backup work. I tend to think Rock Cartwright could’ve picked up the slack, but I can certainly understand the thinking behind a potential Alexander move.

Perhaps the best news about an Alexander signing is that the more artistically gifted among Redskins fans would be able decorate their houses with both him and Jason Taylor on the cheap: Fatheads of the two are on 90% off clearance, and you’d just need to paint over the Seahawks and Dolphins uniforms, respectively. Voila — a former MVP and a former defensive player of the year, all for about twenty bucks.

So the Redskins would bring in Alexander at a discount price, you would decorate your house with him at an even steeper discount price, and everyone would be a winner — as long as you don’t mind doing the intricate brushwork on the Redskins helmet.

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45 Responses

  1. Very interested to see how this plays out. Rock has got to be a little pissed that he might not get the time.

  2. i think now would be a great time to have marcus mason or to go and try and get him back off the ravens practice squad. He’s strong explosive, and knows the offense. He may not be great on special teams but as a third downs back he’s probably the best choice….GO REDSKNS!!!

  3. Zorn and Stump will know whether or not Alexander’s got anything left in the tank. I for one hope that he does.

  4. Good idea to try and get Mason back. He would be excellent!

  5. Why not give Mason a chance now. He played his heart out in Pre-season and the reason for letting him go was that we didnt have room for another back. We know the guy has talent. Now we need a back. Lets see what he can do versus first string defenses.

  6. I like the sentimentality for Mason, but there’s really nothing to lose by working out Alexander. Like others have said, these coaches will know if he has anything left. If he does, he’s signed for the vet minimum and a pretty good insurance policy/backup.

    We don’t really know what Mason can do against NFL starters, but we do know about a healthy Alexander, and it’s pretty damn good…

  7. I am by no means knocking Alexander… But we know this guy is nearing the end of his career. I am just thinking that if we have an opportunity to get Mason back on the Skins and get him the ball in regular season for two or three games, lets see what he has to offer. We know what we have with Portis. Cartwright is a beast when he gets the ball. and my Boy Betts will be back soon. We might have something great right before our eyes with Mason. It is nothing permenant.

  8. Rock is definitely capable, but I firmly believe we NEED him on special teams too much – and can’t risk that. Alexander is a viable option if he has anything at all left in the tank. Zorn and Stumpy will know.

  9. I think the problem with bringing Mason back is simple, he would be guaranteed a contract in order to sign him from the Ravens’ Practice squad, the NFL rules are that if you sign a player from another team’s PS, they have be on the 53 man roster and stay there unless injury.

    Alexander could be cut as soon as Betts is healthy without it costing the Skins anything other than the couple of weeks on the roster. No guarantees in such a contract.

    That must be the thing they are looking at, in order to sign any player now, they will also have to cut a player(could use IR too) who is already on the 53 man roster.

    It’s kind of tricky, to me, they shouldn’t do anything in this regard(running back situation), maybe make a move towards a wide out considering Zorn seems to reaching the end of his patience waiting for Kelly to get healthy.

    Just my opinions on the matter.

  10. 4-2 and lots of questions!

    What has Shaun A been doing since released by the Seahawks?

    Will Jim Z be objective in making this decision if Shaun A is a candidate?

    Is Marcus M the right change up when Portis is out?

    Who is out there at running back that the Skinz can tap?

    Is Randall El our punt returner for the year? What other options do we have? Why not experiment with putting two returners deep?

    When will we put Malcom K on the IR and get a viable receiver on the field against that position? Where is Anthony Mix? Did he catch on with another team? BRING BACK ANTHONY MIX!!!

    Can anyone spell pass rush? OK….where is our pass rush?

    Are we OK against the pass or does anyone else think our pass defense is suspect?

    Will the Redskinz take the Browns lightly? Will the Skinz let the 12th Man down again? Or will they seize the moment and allow the 12th Man to truly rise up and support the team?

    Is Derrick Frost our next punter? Why would that be good?

    Why doesn’t Todd Collins hold for PATs and FGs?

    Will we be 5-2 at this time next week?

    At 4-2 still lots of questions!

  11. 4-2 and lots of questions!

    What has Shaun A been doing since released by the Seahawks?

    Will Jim Z be objective in making this decision if Shaun A is a candidate?

    Is Marcus M the right change up when Portis is out?

    Who is out there at running back that the Skinz can tap?

    Is Randall El our punt returner for the year? What other options do we have? Why not experiment with putting two returners deep?

    When will we put Malcom K on the IR and get a viable receiver on the field against that position? Where is Anthony Mix? Did he catch on with another team?

    Can anyone spell pass rush? OK….where is our pass rush?

    Are we OK against the pass or does anyone else think our pass defense is suspect?

    Will the Redskinz take the Browns lightly? Will the Skinz let the 12th Man down again? Or will they seize the moment and allow the 12th Man to truly rise up and support the team?

    Is Derrick Frost our next punter? Why would that be good?

    Why doesn’t Todd Collins hold for PATs and FGs?

    Will we be 5-2 at this time next week?

    At 4-2 still lots of questions!

  12. I hear that Jim Brown is available as well. What’s the hold-up? Gas up Redskins One and go get him.

  13. Chief, one can create just as many questions and more for every team in the NFL. Your post reeks of near panic, just chill dude.

    This team is not in bad shape, I think a lot more is being made of this Alexander thing than is warranted, if signed, he would be a temporary measure, with the “ya never know” mentality.

    The punter issue big enough on it’s own, but then again, teams going through multiple kickers/punters in a season is fairly common, so no need to freak out about that either.

    There is a need for a pass rush, but NO, the pass defense IS NOT SUSPECT. They have been outstanding actually.
    If Blache can get a serious pass rush going, they’ll be downright scary.

    And I still say Tryon should get a shot on punt returns, his quickness and speed would be very useful there, along with his physical style of play (wonder if it isn’t just a matter of a trust issue for Zorn with him, the same way it is with the rookie WRs).

    It may be time to IR Kelly, that would be a real shame too, he was progressing beautifully before the hammy that became a knee. But they need to get another wide out availble, I think that’s a serious issue that really could be an issue down the road.

  14. Why run out to get another RB when we still have Rock, and Betts will only be out a week or two? I’d be pissed if I were Rock and this were true. Right now, it sounds like we’re still in rumor territory.

    Chief, I’ve wondered the same thing about Collins holding. Have the backup QB hold. That frees up your options for a Punter, and gives the other team something to think about on kicks. The possibility of a fake is a bigger danger if the holder can actually throw a ball.

    Finally, Randle El is fine on returns as long as he runs forward. He spends so much time running sideways that the kicking team has time to come after him. If he just caught the ball and ran forward, he’d pick up the yardage.

  15. I was not familiar with the rules. I really agree with bluecollar. No need to go after another back. Guess Iam bias there tho with this guy Running wild like he did in preseason. Also would hate to see Kelly go to IR. Anxious to see him come alive on the game field. Zorn has proven himself trustworthy with his decision making thus far. I have to say that as a HUGE SKINS FAN i will back him in his thought process no matter what he decides. Go skins

  16. Actually I was wrong on the guranteed contract:

    practtice squad rules:
    each club may establish a Practice Squad of no more than eight (8) players who are free agents.The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club’s physical and been a member of the club’s Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.) and who did not dress for more than eight (8) regular season games during their only accrued (i.e., on the 53 man roster for at least 6 games) season. Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07 League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs. Aigher salary can be negotiated.
    In addition, a player under contract to a club as a Practice Squad player is completely free to sign a contract with another NFL club during the season in order to be on the second club’s Active/Inactive (i.e., 53 man) list. A practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club’s next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).If another club signs a Practice Squad player to its 53 man roster it does not have to provide any sort of compensation to the player’s former club but it generally must keep the player on the 53 man roster for at least 3 weeks, thereby mandating that he earns in 2007 the minimum first year salary for said 3 week period ($285,000 prorated weekly). Also note that a team can add and release players from the practice squad as often as it desires and the eight (8) man limit does not have to be maintained. A player may be on the practice squad for two seasons; three weeks on the practice squad count as a season. An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. The League may elect to allow some or all Clubs to add to their practice squads one additional player, who shall not count against the limit above, whose citizenship and principal place of residence are outside the United States and its Territories (“International Player”). The League’s election in any one season shall not determine or affect its election in any subsequent season

  17. BluCollar: No panic here. Just valid questions that apply to the Redskins at 4-2…….not just any team.

    I’m certainly not the only person who is asking these questions…..and everyone of them deserves an answer just as sure as the 12th Man deserved to not be disappointed on Sunday by the Skinz losing to a winless team and the fans this Sunday deserve to see a ready team defeat a clearly dangerous Browns team.

    Hopefully somebody at Redskins Park has an answer to everyone of them…..cuz if not…..we’re 4-3 this time next week.

    No panic here…..just questions.

  18. Ok, no panic, but my point was that every team has question marks going into every game, the answers are not always clear however.

    And this kinda shows what I was thinking from your thought process:

    “Hopefully somebody at Redskins Park has an answer to everyone of them…..cuz if not…..we’re 4-3 this time next week.”

    Much of what you say is a question mark(I’m not disagreeing with some of them) have been question marks for the Skins all year, how can you say they have to be “answered” or else they lose this week?

    You just sound so reactionary, I guess.

  19. So am i understanding that it would not be a bad idea to sign him for three weeks? That he would not count against us other than his salary?

    Cheif – our Skins have gone way beyond anyones expectations this season. We did some things that were uncharacteristic of our Skins on Sunday. Give them a chance. I have a feeling that Z will have their minds straight.

  20. There is no reason to bring in a fourth running back, cause Marcus Mason was cut cause of no space on the roster. Jim should use Rock, cause Rock can be trusted. He took the load once before vs Rams (2005) and I’m sure he will be happy to take it again.

    I think the biggest problem in that last game was the neutral job of the team. We didnt keep the tempo, kept running the ball and wasted time instead of ending the game early in the first half. I think this game slipped out of our hands cause of management issues. I hate to say this but I blame this one of Jim not the players.

    Redskins dont need to change personal. We need to make them better. Its common for a rookie to be inconsistent (looks like he gets stage fright to me). And its also common for a team to indure injuries and expect their #2 and #3 guys to step up.

  21. Can the pump fake be taught? If so Coach Zorn please tell my boy JC that defense’s do still bite on those just something to put in before next week. Ok as for this past Sunday it’s in the past we all know what happened and it was turnovers. But what I did see was with about 6 min left in the 4th quarter. I saw no real since of urgency what’s up with the speedy no huddle? Is it still installed? The thing I love about ya JZ is your ability to attack and dial up big plays. We need to work on our no huddle quick deep throw. Because when beyond the 50 and down two scores or even one score we should try a quick play towards the end zone at least once and a pump fake to the posit side of Santana should free him up if the rest of the pump fake has not be over utilized during the course of the game so if by design or creation I believe our young QB needs to add the pump fake to his rep. Our offense should always been on attack mode even when we run in the huddle the theme on run plays should be “spring 20”! And drop 60 on passes. That being said welcome the new look Cleveland Browns to FedEx. Keys to this game Offense! Show the D what you guys can do because as long as they keep a team to less than 21 points midway through the 4th we should win football games and we will not be an elite team until we do and until we start posting an avg of 28ppg. That’s my view and I am sticking to it! And while you guys might have another view which I don’t know very well what it could be aside from wanting to avg 34ppg or something crazy, so put or die a slow drawn out unforgiving death in the NFC East! The cowboys are slowed down so now is the perfect opportunity to close in on the giants and separate ourselves from the pack! Come on SKINS I know we can do it!

  22. hey matt any alexander sightings yet??

  23. All we need is ice cream…

  24. Great arguments like normal BluCollar. Personally, for me the kicking game, punting, more specifically is our biggest priority… which is being addressed. As stated in a previous post, I am not sure on the Shaun Alexander move unless it’s as Blu is stating a “what if ” move. If he comes in here for 3 weeks feeling like he has something to prove and bam opens everyones eyes with 4-5 good carries a game he in the mix for a couple year deal with another team. Again I am like the rest of you, why not stick with Cartwright unless this injury is possibly more than they letting on. OOOOOrrrrrr, maybe they IR’ing Kelly, moving Cartwright to reciever and bringing Alexander in for a workout. Lol. Don’t really believe that, but hell I don’t know. From Zorn’s interview reciever seemed like the next issue Zorn was wanting to tackle, after our punting game. I think Portis kind of nailed it on the head when he stated we play to our opponents. Seems that way for awhile now and I hope that we can fix that. I do love close games….but every week? Not sure my head can handle any more grey hairs.

  25. After reading your blurb on the signing of practice sqaud member, is my interpretation correct that we could sign him if he were to play at least 3 weeks? Then are we free to let him go? Or move him to our practice sqaud? That seems like that would work too. Again I have to think they concerned about “game time” experience and an actual proven track record. Alexander been around and while we all agree he is a shell of his former self we know what he capable of, and I would have to think he a “safe bet”. Whereas, Mason, though I pulling for him is more of an unknown. Yes he did well in the Preseason, but if we were to base things off preseason how well were you predicting our skins to be doing judging from preseason. Hard to put too much stock into it. (I know I am going to eat these words someday when he gets his break).

  26. HA HA. PAcman has been suspended by Godall. you know the criminal cowboys wernt going to do it. The hits keep on a commin for the the cowgirls i love it!!!

  27. Wow, suspended indefinately, with at least 4 games to serve. Cowboys stock just keeps falling. Guess this puts the Eagles over top the boys in the division. Romo, should be back in time for the skins game, and possibly Pac-man. What an intersting season these first few weeks.

    Anyone interested in starting a fantasy league with some other skins fans? I would be interested to play with some of you guys. Drop me an e-mail if you would.

  28. e-mail is norbit0280@yahoo.com

  29. way to go jerry please keep pluckin the convicts !!!! im sure he has vicks relese date in his blackberry calander!!!!!!! I LOVE TO SEE THE COWGIRLS MELT!!!!

  30. Whatever happened to the league reviewing the deshaun jackson punt return?

    Zorn said he had the report but did not have time to read it.

    Then the rams happened and it got lost……?

  31. Probablly a -1 for that particular officiating crew working in the Super Bowl. That basically all I ever hear coming from those reports.

  32. Well, it’s official. We just signed Shaun Alexander. Interesting. Curious bout the details.

  33. I guess Zorn felt like we needed another back…. Alexander is a Redskin.

  34. Boys get Roy Williams for three draft picks from the Lions.

  35. A new punter too. where is Matt today? Fill us in Matt.

  36. Yep, Ryan Plackemeier, where are all of our reporters?

    MAAAATT! What’s up!

  37. Blu. what can you tell me about this punter? we in the heck did he come from? Skins practice must have been on lock down today. No news from any Redskins reporters. how does sheafter find out first?…lol

  38. Posting now, but nothing is official and signed yet which has made things tough.

  39. Ok. Schefter reports that Skins have signed him… where does this guy get his contacts from. Nice job on everything else Matt. You have made things nice for us fans. Its nice to know what is going on throughout the week.

  40. Ryan Plackemeier was also a Ray Guy award winner, had decent numbers two years and was cut this season. I am still checking on him for sure.

    But he’s a younger guy, not a bad flier when you look at who he is.

    http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanplackemeier/careerstats?id=PLA024085

  41. His numbers went down as time went on, and the “Hawks finally gave up on him.

    I guess we’ll see. Maybe Zorn thinks he can be coached out of his short punts.

  42. Did Gerald Riggs were 37 back in 91-92 ??? Great coinsidence!!! Hope Alexander has a little in the tank, maybe hes been doing the Payton workout for the last three months. The punters name sounds familiar, want to say he played in Green Bay, another strange deal, not 100 percent sure though.

  43. The Skins signed Shaun Alexander to a one-year deal for the veteran minimum; Betts could be out anywhere from two to four weeks, with a sprained LCL. The team released Justin Hamilton, placed Reed Doughty on injured reserve (ending his season) and signed safety Mike Green (who was in Chicago with Blache). The team also signed punter Ryan Plackemeier.

  44. ICE CREAM!!!!!

  45. just checked punter is from Seattle. good start there, but tailed off.

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